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It's intention was to guide people to live accordingly and teach the values of life. It's straight forward. Here are the laws, if you disobey them the punishment is so, if you obey them the reward is so. One creator multiple interpretations of his laws around the world through different cultures and customs. (Think of the laws of your country regarding driving while under the influence..) I'm a South African from the Bapedi tribe, before our land was colonised and our customs deemed as "witch craft" and "in-"Human" " we strongly believed in communication with our ancestors, who serve as agents between the living and the creator. Same rules apply. Disobey get punished obey get rewarded. Anyway our natural order was replaced with Christianity which uhm surprise follows the same order. Religion wasn't meant to be permanent. It was meant to guide people and then have people live without it. But through the care of man, it is now a tool to used to create people who do not live accordingly with the law, who will force the "peacemakers" to make peace or create a community of slaves that obey every word as long as it's from a government that recites a few verses from religious text. Religion has now turned into a very successful business model, and people have grown so numb that they either follow what every corrupt church/leader says without question or do the complete opposite. Fun fact all the best lies have truth in them so when you completely reject the lie in its entirety you reject the truth too. Anyway my multipoint argument is that religion has nothing to do with dieties, spirits, God or gods. Those existed before religion and will continue long after religion and religious Vs non-religious people have destroyed themselves.
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I hate how divisive religion can be when it has little to do with life and everything to do with death. In the scope of most religions, your life is just to serve a measure for destination in death. In the end, why does it matter if someone believes something differently as long as it doesn't affect you? (edited)
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Interesting post. Idk if it was for fun or whatever, but there are religions that can be secular, Religion is too broad a topic. If we look at Religion objectively , obviously, certain things probably didn't happen, but there can be truth in it. I've found different truths in many religions I've studied; Buddhism -- Meditation etc.. Was the Buddha not real?.. He lived and died just like any normal person would. So we have to properly define religion, in a way of understanding stories not just through an objective/ scientific lens. For me, Money is a religion is it not? You give money imaginary value that everyone agrees upon, you go to a job for it, and people live and die by it..
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Ooooh, I love these debates. I'm actually in an atheism vs theism debate group, and do this all the time, so here goes. We have two options. We either were or were not created. This tackles the imaginary part. Following process of elimination, we can figure out which one is true, and since it is impossible to prove we were, we have to look at the were not option, so let's do that. Starting off, what is the most important piece to have a viable organism that could survive long enough to lead to life? Answer is reproduction, leading us in to the next question. What is the simplest possible self replicating dna sequence? A quick search showed it was about 214 units long. Now this sequence has to be randomly assembles with no help from an unnatural force in order for there to be no god involved. We can get a rough estimate with a probability equation. Let's assume the ideal circumstance. An even amount of all four of the basic dna units. We will not calculate the probability of the string being damaged mid formation, and we will figure that it can be formed 2 possible ways, forward or backwards. That means the probability equation is (4^214)/2=x. This means there is a 1 in 3.46583712 E+128 that a single piece of what life needs to start without a god to make it will form. Let's remember, that I'd 1 in36,583,712,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance for even a portion of what we need for functioning life to form. If you calculate for any variance or damage, it gets even less likely. 52! Is widely considered a probability threshold, in other words, it would be mathematically impossible for you to have two decks of playing cards shuffled side by side randomly and have them both end up in the same exact order. It is more likely that a mathematically impossible thing would happen than us coming into being without the influence of a creator. So this proves that it's pretty much impossible for us to have not been created, thus logic follows we must have been created, thus God exists. Now the question is which God is real. For that, we can look at each religion family, ie Greek and Roman, Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, ect... based on logic, any god being claimed only recently would be false, so scrap all of those. Paganism changes evert so often to fit the wants of the people, there are so many brands that it's not worth following, Greco-Roman died off, and if a religion dies its probably not worth a coin in the coffer, so that leaves the Abraham's faiths. They don't have a conflict, because Allah, Yahweh, and God are all names for the same entity. Different instructions for each of his peoples.
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Imma be honest I starting to think that the people who wrint the books in the Bible were not all in the right state of mind for multiple reasons. One locked himself if a room to live in solitude for years and as we all know now humans require some level of human interaction lest the go insane. I'm pretty sure the also smoke that good stuff as well for all we know. Snoop Dogg could've probably been their pope. Certain minerals could've been in their drinking water as well. Dehydration and malnutrition. To many factors that can take away any credibility they had
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