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1 month ago

INTP
Sagittarius

1w9

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Men no longer have a clear vision of their role in society and relationships
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Cassidy

1 month ago

ISTJ
Libra

6w5

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What data supports this?

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☀🌿 𝘓𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘴 🌿☀

1 month ago

INTP
Sagittarius

1w9

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AP

1 month ago

INTJ
Libra

8w9

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Nothing stopping us from taking care of our families now. Each era in history had its own unique challenges.

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Alex

1 month ago

ENFP
Scorpio

5w6

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YOU no longer have a clear vision of your role in society and relationships, my brother. Be fearless, judge not, and value no one’s opinion but your own of yourself. Suddenly “society” will cease to exist and you will be a true Man.

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Matthew

1 month ago

INTJ
Gemini

6w5

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Society and relationships themselves have radically changed as well. When we were in an agricultural economy, we grew food to survive and sell. Depending what socio-economic class you were in, marriages were either social contracts to interconnect wealth, or a means of generating labour through childbearing. Maybe there could be love between partners, but women were often treated as property. When we move to the industrial economy, we built or fastened wigits to survive. Maybe we mined for coal or precious metals. If we were lucky, we had a skill and could do something we enjoyed. Work was six days a week, twelve hours a day, or however long you could push yourself. The concept of marriage didn't change much, except instead of raising kids to work the land, you raised the kids to work the factories. Over time, there became a concept of leisure time, of vacations, a notion that life was more than just working in the fields or factories 72+ hours a week and popping out kids. World War II proved that the American economy could survive without a male labour force - as they were out fighting a war. As people began to see leisure time and vacation time (and disposable income), their views on relationships changed. Women no longer had to be relocated as property. They had proven that they could make it without a man. Then came the long road to changing the laws to give them the opportunity commiserate with their personhood. (That they could have jobs, get a fare wage, use birth control, have a recourse to say "no"). In today's world, I really don't understand how the economy works. It seems like we go do stuff for 40-60 hours a week to make sure people will buy stuff during the rest of the week. As long as people keep buying stuff, we can justify paying people to do stuff, and we print money to make sure that system works. We now have time to better understand who we are and what we want - materially, socially, spiritually, etc. So, for many people, life has become a pursuit of what we want. We don't need children to work the fields or work the factories, so we get to decide whether we want kids or not. And because kids are something we can want vice need, we don't really need to get married or be in a relationship anymore. Instead, we can focus on whether we want to be in one. So relationships have moved from being an exchange of property to create a labour force into something quite different. You now have TWO individuals who have visions of what they want materially and non-materially, and those two individuals can decide whether it is better to do that pursuit with someone or without someone. When the two pursuits conflict, there is a decision to compromise or to diverge. Under these conditions, there isn't a need to specify gender roles. If you want children, there are multitudes of ways you can have them that do not require a genetic or sexual component. There really are no roles for people now in general. You consume goods and services to move money around the economy and you work so that there is a means for people to consume those goods and services. At least that's how I see it in America. There does seem to be a general flow of people surrounding themselves in "tribes" based on common understanding of their vision for life. The relatively recent ability to move anywhere you wanted has allowed these tribes to physically gather. The internet allows these tribes to foster without physical association. Within some tribes, you see a push to create a structure to differentiate the genders. In other tribes, it's not that important. We've already seen conflict and violence as the tribes interact with each other. You see alliances between tribes some natural, some uneasy. And I think it will be fascinating to see how this plays out.

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Kenneth

1 month ago

INTJ
Pisces

Did we ever? Really?

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