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Posted Sunday, February 18, 2024
1y
INFP
Scorpio
Is Chivalry dead?
Where are the men who still believe in romance? Where are the men who hold hands and show affection to their partner in public? Where are the men who know that entertaining the attentions of other women would hurt their partner so they don't do it? I'm about to give up š¢
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šš§Bee
1y
INFP
Capricorn
What's worse, is a lot of men pretend to be all these things in the beginning... pretending to be the nice guy...those are who we should be scared of the most... because by the time they show you their true colors... You've already fallen for them and you're stuck in a toxic relationship
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AŪµš”ššŗąæāšŖ¢
1y
ENFJ
Sagittarius
It definitely is not, I think you need to let the person know what your love language is, so they can give you what you want... A lot of men nowadays feel like they can't do these things because noone seems to understand what "feminism" means.(That's a story for another day š¤). A simple thing like putting the question in your profile, can help your future partner.
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Dylan
1y
INFJ
Taurus
These things exist, but we've been told that behavior like this is "cringe," "simp," or "not real and only a ploy to get into the woman's pants." Also there are one acceptable reasons to to pay attention to women other than your SO, the woman is a family member (of either party) and the attention is familial in nature.
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Joann
1y
INTJ
Libra
I wouldn't put too much stock into that. I think anyone can feign chivalry, especially at the very beginning. Adding: I prefer real. If a guy doesn't hold doors open (among other considerate things), doesn't do any household chores, or is a mama's boy...I want to see that at the beginning so that I can run away sooner. It's just easier for all involved. (edited)
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Marco
1y
INTP
Gemini
The issue is a societal one that stems from humanity's relationship to technology and the capitalist industrialist system that has emerged through history. Chivalry was borne in medieval times as a means to influence the behavior of mercenaries, and those of noble birth who would become knights instead of functionaries, to avoid conflict as women were (back then and in many societies to this day) considered property, goods. And we know that damaged goods are not good any longer and as such become unusable for their original intended purpose, hence chivalry to ensure harmony between classes and castes. Nowadays, without the feudal system creating the necessary tension to maintain such a behavior, the slack is noticeable, but the cultural expectations remain. How so? Partly to blame is the continuous efforts of members and organs of certain societies to maintain a status quo with strong feudal tendencies because an unemancipated woman is easy to control and dispose of and the power play of the establishment can continue unfettered over the legal framework that society itself keeps perpetrating. Meanwhile the lower classes are left to deal with different harsh realities that tend to involve their feelings, self perception, systemic ignorance and lack of self esteem, and a desperate need for attention without intention to take responsibility over one's own actions. (this would probably sound a lot better if I had spent some money on the AI)
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John Cox
1y
ENFJ
Sagittarius
Let's be real with the question. Where are the women in my area who want these things and not just saying they do? In my experience women in Columbus Ohio only say they want that but run to this who refuse to give it when I was right there giving them all these things.
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Mhea
1y
INFP
Prolly dead⦠as chivalry is dead and all was left is only-looking-for-fun men š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø
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Ryan
1y
ISTJ
Sagittarius
Not yet
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Austin
1y
INFJ
Cancer
I'm right here š š«¶
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Jewel
1y
ISFJ
Well Iām not sure how to answer this one? Women have become so independent that they have become used to being the āboss chickā so she had to be the go getter when they guy comes along to open they door sheās puzzled. I used to be that way too, but now I welcome a guy being a gentleman. It makes me feel more feminine and cherished.
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Chris Dodd
1y
INTP
Virgo
I feel its more of society telling girls they need to be badasses and independent, personally all i want in my life is someone i can chill with and play games and watch anime together, take her out amd spend time and so much more. The worlds taking a turn and personally its made me feel im not welcome being in it anymore woman get so much support and hype so many men get torn down by woman that personally i feel scared to go in public areas i just stay home where i feel unjudged and in my safe space.
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Ryan
1y
ISFJ
Libra
Some men (Iām talking about my friend Matt) donāt do it cause they donāt see the point in it. Or they are self conscious of what people might think. Personally I donāt care whether we are in public or alone if I care for someone or even love someone I make sure not to hide it. Chivalry is dead to a point. Not many men hold doors open or anything fancy like that. (I do but thatās irrelevant) but when it comes to actual love and caring. I donāt think it will ever die.
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Jay
1y
ENFJ
Pisces
Maybe you should consider once to start talking to the guys you normally ignore for not being what you want them to be, you will be surprised that you've been looking for chivalry in wrong men. Most of the girls i know are attracted to toxic men the worst part is they know they are toxic and still wanna be with them dosen't matter if the guy is single or dating someone already. I have been in a situation like this and since I've stopped looking out for them. It is sad
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Mary
1y
ESFJ
Capricorn
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Stephen
1y
ISFP
Libra
It is in fact not dead. There are men out here like myself who are looking for real romantic relationship. And like myself I am genuinely a nice guy. Just seems that since I am a little over 50, a little over weight, that I am not worth a second look. I have average looks, a stocky dad bod. And many good qualities. But with the whole swipe mentality of online dating, I get passed by. I only want one good person to be at my side. And willing to maintain open communications, and share love with them daily. I am a romantic sap, and not going to change. Question is: When will someone actually take the time to see the true me and know what true love can be?
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Lester
1y
ENFP
Pisces
There are men like that, but times have also changed. Pay attention to how they behave towards others who they feel they have power over. From service staff, to homeless, to anyone outside their immediate circle. Those are clear indicators of their personality, because they gain nothing from being positive to them other than just showing they are positive. Also, times change. What is chivalrous can change, just as we expect people now to be more tolerant and understanding. Find someone who communicates the same way (read up on love languages for example) and it may be easier. There are good people in this world.
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Vipul
1y
ENFJ
Libra
All men are not same. Same thing applies to girls also (edited)
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Pradnyesh
1y
ENTJ
Virgo
No it's not. But one of the major reason it was prominent was because it was valued & respected. However once the respect was replaced with name-calling , as a natural reaction, it's just adapting. Maybe just indicate that you still value it & it may just find a way back in your life!!
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Wind
1y
INFJ
Sagittarius
cavaliers were overtaken by the fight for equality and the desire to show that women should also chop wood;) as for giving attention to another person, as long as you have good self-confidence and know your worth, no one can take your place. if some takes your place, someone better is waiting for you around the corner. Btw I am oldschool;)
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