🍄Blue🍄

Posted Saturday, September 17, 2022

1y

ENFP
Leo

Cheating

Cheating in person Vs Cheating with some gamer you never met in person. I consider both cheating no matter if you really met them and physically done it. Photos, texts still count (my opinion) and the fact you emotionally withdrew and betrayed. Any thoughts?

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Rafael

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I don't think it's about cheating or not cheating. It's about boundaries, communication.. You need to talk about how do you feel about it, what do you expect from that relationship, what hurts you, what can hurt the other person but you like doing.. Communication.

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Rafael

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When you say what you consider cheating you are saying what hurts you, what you don't accept. If that person knew you wouldn't like that, and the person did it anyways.. well, it can be an accident, you need to find out if that's something sistematic, part of who that person is, if that person recognizes that as a mistake, as something they should work on. To me it's a little more complicated than just labeling cheating...

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🍄Blue🍄

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ENFP
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@Rafael Accidents aren't accidents when your supposed to be devoted .

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Rafael

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INFP
Taurus

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@🍄Blue🍄 Well, from my pont of view, a devoted person is just an unbalanced person who found someone to worship to fulfill some deficit, some trauma/unbalanced development need. IMO you should have an equal sense of individuality and community(relationship). Too much love (devotion) isn't healthy. Regardless of what I think it's the ideal relationship we all know that we as humans are far from perfect. So that's why I think we should be open and understanding to others. We all have our pros and cons.. If we can be open, and talk to each other, explain our needs, we should be fine.

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🍄Blue🍄

1y

ENFP
Leo

@Rafael Well it seems like I'm hearing a lot of opinion from someone who has done their own forms of "Accidents". Since you seem to have this already determined opinion and want to.so.well.put it. ⚠️⚠️⚠️ And in this message you read from me when you receive this I will hope, you do some more soul searching and checking yourself.Before you allow what you think is happening at it's worse and seemingly watch what you say.⚠️⚠️⚠️ I myself am someone who has always been Intuned in the steps that i make. As I have been victimized multiple times and no matter how much therapy and conversations and one on ones even things that pushed my boundaries. Being vocal and ready to work is anything for a relationship to work and their past abuse and experiences, giving chances and waiting through both different forms of incarceration on the other's half. I myself have never been someone who has been so vocal. - and in the sense.. this person who I grew up with learned and spent many time and years with through many different forms of trauma - - and and even though even though I want so badly to forgive this incident, there was a point when I was very honest and even to a point where I knew where maybe he didn't feel the same way or was losing interest I saw it like a freight train I'm very intuitive and have a witt, though it's taken years of crying and looking a mirror repeating that till I can finally say this with minimal confidence.with how people move speak and touch.. I knew what the situation was going through even before he knew that I somewhat knew something was up. But before.that.turns.into.me.having.an.unbalanced.devotion... 🫂🫂 I am no saint or hero, I'm a Character; a Person who has done their own accidents and mistakes and I am fully well aware. Dealt with depression,PTSD, Incarceration, Violence,Substance Abuse. 📖 These are both paths we have taken and spent apart and back. But his pains and my own were something I knew I didn't need to feel that entire full devotion and love and just the comfortableness of having a partner; a companion to cry share and laugh. Both been cheated in online relationships, Both experienced a loved one we wanted to start a life with die before us, before we really understood love; but instead early emotions and passions; And misconcept of early young love and then loss. 📖 I've fallen and he has, But these pains and and past scars wear and yes can be carried but change people.Before this time; I in the past would often talk to someone from a past relationship went through accidents and in my past hurt pained cynical nature. Gave it no original thought. It was a mistake let's try again.. The difference between the two us were two different things. When I got cheated on I tried making things work and many understanding and small steps of eggshells because words and actions cause damage now. We are more Intuned than before, all Covid did was teach to read between the lines/ understanding/ patience.But also Emotional attachments from the forms Different kinda that I even fell through before all this. So I'm this sense I would originally understand. 📚 But dealt with therapy, adult psy therapy,PtSD and scars and trigger words on both sides learning to change. On my own pain and behalf, once a Polygamous relationship character, someone who went through open marriage/marriage in general/divorce/death of children. 📖 Both sides. 📚 I was a character who always gave second chances through pain and the hard steer of being alone. To the Point Drug abuse, forced on drugs, Getting even defecated on; physically and emotionally beaten. Which in itself a ugly horrible wrong in my lowest as that allowed and in itself (myself) allowed to be a victim and not allowing strength and progress. 📖 He was someone I knew, someone I started slow and soft steps but vocal ones. Never wanting to hurt him anyway I knew, I once allowed someone else to do. He was someone where the moment you hurt him, even slightly on purpose and filled with intent. Would force himself out of mind out of life with you and cut all emotions and they be dead to him. As that was his coping mechanism. Studying Biology and psychology back to back from someone with a degree on it, learning from class one how the body worked and then the chemicals and levels worked in yourself; then psychology 101 ,, how said mental chemicals worked-- love isn't just emotion as that isn't what makes a relationship. Even though once was never an issues for myself and his devotion to monogamous relationship- (i-me-myself). Used sex when finally at a straw once. And became an addict of finally turning off emotions. So in a sense my emotions yes we're at a challenge as well. But both communication and understanding I would inform him he wasn't just my lover but best friend. So if there was a time if he could and would have informed me- it was a challenge for me- as my character changed to pride.i informed him softly I understand things and sometimes emotions and just wants happen, but please inform me as humans do have emotions and sometimes there is only so many second chances a person (myself) so I knew where my limits are and it embarrassed me and I hated pushing my own self at time but felt good and relieved in a sense, so I vocalized and sung like a bird. This man has helped drive to the hospital, and vice versa and the devidence and his intentions were to an extent from when we sat down and emotions wise shared our own sides. It wasn't an accident. Realizing that bird was a Phoenix, and it was myself.

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Risha

1y

ENTJ
Pisces

You're completely right. If you are committed to a person and break the boundaries set then you are cheating, regardless of how conventional the dynamic is.

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🍄Blue🍄

1y

ENFP
Leo

Thank you.💕

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