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Do you think there should be regulations/policy on procreation, seeing as we have 8 billion people on the planet and resources are dwindling?
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1mo
There are plenty of resources, they are just not distributed equally or fairly.
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"Fair" is a subjective concept. You eat what you kill. Everything else is charity.
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@Jonesy capitalism is charity, got it
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@Jonesy truu.. he is always right
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@Jonesy yet id be willing to bet you're not nearly competent or resourceful enough to hunt for your every meal. If you're going to hide behind toughness to be cruel at least have the stones to back it up.
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Its so rare to see the objective correct answer
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Life is not fair. And no two people are exactly equal in anything anyway. Sometimes you get what you deserve. Other times you don’t. And no one will ever make this world “fair” or “equal”.
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@Robert no one inherently deserves things like starvation, poverty, genocide, etc.....
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@Bex deserve has nothing to do with it. Point to me a time in human history where everyone was equal and no one suffered. You can’t. I’m not saying you can’t try to help people but just realize that starvation poverty and genocide has been the norm for most of human history.
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@Jonesy I’m always killimg it. Yum
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Nobody has the right to deny another human being autonomy. Resources are more available now than ever, the few just choose to hord and waste out of greed.
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Make your own resources
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@Matt Adkins as I said resources are more available than ever. There is no shortage.
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@Matt Adkins not saying I'm the one being denied them. If you don't have the critical thinking skill to understand that you should reassess some of your life decisions that lead to that.
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Why do we keep thinking the world will just supply resources to us every day as long as we live? Resources are finite guys, the sooner you realize it, the better. Not to burst bubbles here, but some point we will die out due to overpopulation. Our species has little to no predators. And if there were any, we'd just find a way to kill it off or just live longer somehow as we have been for years. But without anything to actively kill us off, we will outgrow the resources we have and perish. Just look at any species that had lived with "abundant resources" and nothing hunting them in history. You will see they died the same way almost every time. It's time to stop believing we can just do what we want and life will just give us what we ask for without consequences.
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@Alana why not volunteer yourself and your family then? There are renewable and non renewable resources. Unlike animals humans are capable of using tools and technology to adapt. Overpopulation is just an ecofascist excuse to ask for genocide and massacres. If we took care of the planet and focused on using renewable resources everything would be sustainable. You don't care about what's good for "our species" you just see a dangling carrot and would rather take the easier option that offers more bloodshed, more theft, and more waste of resources because you'd rather everything else burn than systemically changing for the better.
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@Dylan bold of you to assume I'm up for massacres and theft all of a sudden based on my beliefs and the beliefs of many others. What next? Are you gonna say I'm a fan of teen pregnancies and against contraception just for being Christian too? I think overpopulation is a real thing and will happen eventually. Why do you think people over years have mentioned that we are using resources meant for more than what one planet can offer? Sure we can stand to use our resources better, and distribute them in a just manner. However, population does play a key role in it. Believe whatever makes you sleep better at night, but don't insinuate anything about my character when you know nothing about me. I never even did that to you, so you shouldn't do it to me.
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@Alana I "assumed" you want massacre because you're arguing a belief system that exists solely for massacres. Everyone who cries about overpopulation does so to justify their solution; genocide. The Nazis argued it, Stalin argued it, and wouldn't ya know everyone else who's agenda is mass murder argues it. If your agenda isn't mass murder then you're extremely ignorant of what you're actually perposing. There's a reason why your school of thought is termed "ecofascism". You couldn't give me ONE ethical solution to overpopulation.
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@Dylan ok, what am I proposing? In your words tell me what my whole plan is
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@Alana answer my question and I'll answer yours. What is your ethical solution. Give me 1 realistic idea to solve "overpopulation" that isn't just mass murder, mass sterilization, or in any other way restricting human beings autonomy.
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@Dylan I don't want u using my words in a bias manner. So I'd like to get an idea of what you think I'm thinking before an answer. Makes no sense for me to answer first.
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@Alana I'm not biased I'm educated. You're repeating rhetoric from a school of thought called "ecofascism". Ecofascism is the idea that something within the planet is unsustainable and ultimately the solution is to kill or sterilize groups of people, most often whatever groups the ecofascist dislikes. You've done an amazing job telling the world you believe the first half and now that you can't give me even one ethical solution you're only showing you fit the rest of the bill. There is no overpopulation; just extreme population density and improper use of resources.
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@Dylan well I was gonna say educate people about the gravity of the issue, so that way people at least understand the fact that we are overpopulated and should do smtg about it. Again, I never said anything about killing others. You have made such a grand generalization because it sounds like you assume people are somehow all the same. I'm not claiming to have all the answers, and no amount of arguing will likely change either of our minds. So why not agree to disagree?
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@Alana not really because if food and cost of living becomes too expensive people have less children. In the US about 50% of women will never have kids. That’s the trajectory we’re on. Women love work more than children now.
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@Dylan how about no more families no big then two kids. Thats reasonable and does not promote genocide. People do not need to have 13 or 12 kids. I like Nick Cannon but he doesnt need to be a father to that man children. Deep Ecology is a belief that the way himanities is reacting to the nature of our world is not susatianble and needs to change or we all will suffer the consaquences. Your attitude is one of confliction and angry fine no one is kiling anyone but it sure would be bettwr if an astroid hit us. Perhaps we could use the metals from it to boast GDP around the world. What worked 10 years ago isnt going to work 10 more in the future becucase the numbers are beyond different.
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The question is - who's to decide? No-one has the right to make such decisions. Only everyone for themselves.
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Exactly
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When you raise the education level for women, there are fewer births, wealth improves and the climate is impacted in a less brutal way. How about we focus on that more? 😛
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There are a lot of areas to cover. Its not like a light switch and group mentality is completely different then a single mind. With global issues humanity needs to have a consensus on which way we should be focusing but that conflicts with those who have the power who will not relinquish their grasp even if it is to save the only planet we have.
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@🌸 Kenny 🥋 ケニー 🎋 oh at the very least have addressed further support to the issue at hand i wasnt really expecting a huge conversation out of the post. Mostly I was look for popular opinion but thst was ab oversight on my part I should be ready to back what I say with at least a reference. But science does have its role in this, experts such as the EPA say due to the increase of population its making difficult for the sweage infrastructure to maintain the volume, especially when heavy rains systems roll through. Such as those huge hurricanes that came through a few years back. So becarefully when you drink from the tap might be drinking poop.
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@Bishop i have a filter 😂
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@🌸 Kenny 🥋 ケニー 🎋 touche lol
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@Bishop but I agree that we as a society have quite a few issues to deal with. Seweage is just one of them. Climate change is the most urgent one if you ask me. ☝️
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@🌸 Kenny 🥋 ケニー 🎋 we do and whats worse is they all are interwoven together. Making it difficult to take one off the self to repair and put it back to get another.
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@Bishop absolutely! No doubt
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Hey @Kenny I just read what you were talking about raising education levels for women it lowers birthrates. Thank you I did not know that before.
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@Bishop very often society thrives when you educate woman. It’s one of the most efficient ways to improve a community and push it into the next level. Surpressing women keeps your country/society very poor both in knowlegde, economy, environmental care, … Education is often a key to improve life quality in an area in so many ways. Dropping birth rates are a “side effect” as people in higher educated areas don’t have as many children.
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Hold up there, Thanos.
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Lmao thats what my brother calls me. But was Thanos right?
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@Bishop lol your brother understands well. So going back to the topic, that's not an global issue right now, as every country has their own regulations on that matter because every resource is owned by each one. Think on China for example, as they have a strict regulation for procreation. Or think on some European countries were they promote the procreation because they have so low numbers of births and fertility. Imo, I guess we don't need. Just because China has an overpopulation problem, and some other countries don't.
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I feel like even if the earth could sustain 8 billion more people what's the point? Our species really isn't all that great I definitely think there should be less of us. I also think there will be soon we're over due for a cataclysm
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They call it feminism
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@Matt Adkins that and incels due to the dramatic decrease in testosterone caused by plastics and soy we might just self regulate
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@Charlie phalanx The human population is already self regulating it's populace
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Ofcourse we should be but I don't think it must be a forced regulation...make more people aware about it. The best way to do it is raise their consciousness....they will understand the need to have less children or just a single child who they can take care of very well :)
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Imo they will just learn the hard way once they see that their personal lives are finally getting negatively impacted
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@Alana but that will be too late..no use of understanding it after having 4 kids lol
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@Mylo that's true, but I doubt they would listen unless they learned the hard way
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@Alana well..that's the way everything works isn't it 😆 Either you learn a lesson from others or you learn it from your sufferings:)
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@Mylo well, I'm not disagreeing w ya. So 🤷🏽♀️
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@Alana I'm not disagreeing with you either 🙈 Just saying 💁🏻♂️
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Most of us have moved into crowded cities, but there's plenty of room out in other areas.
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Nope, just hold people to account for their choices. If you can't support and provide for your children consequences should ensue
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@Bryan I like that response the ability to do something does not make it consequence free.
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I think we should nominate registered liberals and communists to colonize Uranus.
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bro, if real comies would exist they would to it themselfs.
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1mo
The problem isn't low resources, it's selfish people
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Resources are unlimited as long as we invest our time and money properly. We just have extremely wasteful governments and a materialist society. That’s the problem. But no the government shouldn’t have any authority on your reproduction so long as you are taking care of your children.
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You could fit, and completely sustain the whole population in the state of texas. Human count is not even an issue. 🤷♂️
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You can decide not have children but the so called statistics you qoute here also predict a rapid decline after we hit 9 billion
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Parenting licenses
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1mo
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We need a meteor. Urgent. 🤣🤣🤣
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Honestly if we want less people we need to stop with charities and start teaching people. Laws are unethical and will be abused. Education and the willingness to teach will help people and the resources more than laws imo.
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