Charles

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Feminism: the idea that being a slave to a job that hardly knows you're there is infinitely better than serving a man who loves you

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Vanessa

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Oh. Wow. Please stop posting these things.

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Charles

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Vanessa

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@Charles I work at a school as an educational interpreter. Most of the people I work with are women. Men don't want to be teachers. These women are excellent people that care for the outcome of the students. It's rare to find men like that. Men are only pressured to earn money. They aren't encouraged to take on a teaching role or caretaker role. The solution that women are looking for is breaking the glass ceiling. In a nutshell we want to earn $1 for the same job that men do rather than merely 70 cents. We want to be taken seriously. We want respect. We want to have input. We eant to be treated as equals. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

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Charles

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@Vanessa and i want a society where two parent homes are the rule, not the exception. I want a society where men are men, and women are women. Where, by fulfilling out roles, we both give each other something to live for. Im sick of moral depravity being used as a means to progress our society

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Vanessa

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@Charles and I would shoot myself if had to spend the day scrubbing toilets and chasing after babies.

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Doug

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@Vanessa the gender wage gap is a myth So the statistic that most feminists argue pertaining to the gender wage gap is that women earn 77 cents on the dollar This statistic is reached by dividing the median earnings of men and the median earnings of women So for example if you divide $30,800 annually as the median take home for women by 40,000 annually as the median take home for men you are left with 0.77 However when we begin to break this down further it becomes apparent that women earn less not due to sexism but individual choices This statistic doesn't take into account occupation position education or hours worked per week AAUW conducted a study that concluded the wage Gap shrinks to 6.6 cents based off of choices made In 2009 the US department of Labor released a report that examined 50 peer-reviewed studies which came to the conclusion that the offsighted 0.23 wage gap may be almost entirely the result of individual choices Georgetown University published a document with the five best paying college majors and the percentile of their respective graduates versus the worst paying Let's compare their findings we'll start with the highest paying Petroleum engineering 87% male Pharmaceutical sciences 48% male Mathematics and computer science 67% male Aerospace engineering 88% male Chemical engineering 72% male Now the worst paying Counseling and psychology 74% female Early childhood education 97% female Theology and religious vocations 66% male Human services and community organization 81% female Social work 88% female Now if we take a look at the nursing industry male nurses tend to earn 18% more than females but what is not taken into consideration are qualifications such as specializing in certain aspects that yield higher pay the willingness and desire to work longer hours and the disproportionately higher rate of men that are willing to relocate To further support my claim I have a quote from professor Linda Atkin from the University of Pennsylvania "Career choices and educational differences explain most if not all the gender gap in nursing" Might I suggest that the reason why the majority of the people you work with are women is because you are genetically predisposed to be better at certain roles than men. Women naturally tend to be more empathetic caring and nurturing. It's not that men don't want to be teachers. We're just not genetically suited for that role it doesn't mean we don't have the capacity. We are simply designed differently biology supports this. Whether we're discussing our neurochemistry or our physical anatomy. You just can't argue with biology.

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@Doug you make a few good points. However, by Charles's logic all teachers would be male, all social workers would be male. The list goes on. If all women stayed at home a lot of things would be drastically different. Why is a teaching position a low paying job? Why is the salary be so insultingly low when they shape young minds? They educate the next generation. They create the doctors, nurses, politicians, astronauts, engineers, and social workers. Is their work less important than that of a man working in a pharmaceutical company? I'm confused. Are we supposed to stay home like Charles says???? Or tolerate low pay? What exactly are you saying?

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Doug

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@Vanessa now I completely agree that teachers are underpaid both male and female but it's not so simple we start getting into infrastructure government spending corruption and the fact that the demand is beginning to decrease the curriculum that teachers are forced to have in their classroom is revised constantly to integrate new schools of thought which has in turn prompted a response from disgruntled parents who have begun homeschooling prior to attempting to have these concerns addressed by the school board who in many situations does nothing And you're absolutely right our educators play a huge role in development of young minds I have a plethora of anecdotal evidence to support this

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Doug

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Yeah contemporary feminism is a joke it's misandry. Also the destruction of the western prescribed nuclear family. Dressed up to look appealing to undesirable women. Let's be real the majority of women that embrace this ideology are usually angry have some form of self-hatred making them easily susceptible to indoctrination. Femininity and masculinity should be in their own right celebrated. Gender roles should be accepted because let's face it they're in place for a reason.

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Charles

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Well said brother. modern feminism is all mental illness and man hate

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@Charles you have no idea what mental illness is.

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@Charles y'all might be confused, you put this in #feminism but what you're looking for is #incels

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Charles

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@Alex a bitter single woman calling a man in a happy relationship an incel has to be the most feminist thing ive seen all day

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Alex

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@Charles a happy relationship when she's not dependent on you as her husband, right?

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@Doug in my experience, men who say things like this are already weak. Your idea of feminism is a bogeyman created by insecure men to vilify independent women. If empowering women makes you feel weak, you're weak. Feminism is respecting women and their choices. For example there's nothing wrong with a woman finding fulfillment in being a housewife or focusing on a career. The toxicity comes from telling a woman she shouldn't be happy because of the role she chose. And if you can't distinguish toxic masculinity from the mature and respectful masculine qualities, it's no surprise if what you look for in a woman is a mommy figure you can have sex with. No one's threatened by this "men with unwashed asses" energy

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Doug

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@Alex who hurt you? you're just dripping with toxicity....using ad hominem attacks because you're upset if you want respect you have to earn it you do realize you're literally assisting in making my point you are the exact individual I am talking about you gravitate towards feminism because it takes away from the focus that you actually have a lot of self-hate and so you project it into men....Men aren't the enemy of women at one point our gender roles were glorified Feminist ideology doesn't stem from women being unhappy it is nothing more than a political tool to disrupt family structure If you look at statistics involving violent crime and you dig a Little deeper these crimes are perpetrated by people that come from broken families it's really not that difficult to understand I understand you have a lot of healing to do before you can even think outside the box like this and I wish you the best of luck on your spiritual journey who knows maybe one day you'll stop hating men

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So, by that logic, you would prefer to have a sugar mama, right?

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