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Rob
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Do you disagree with Hegel, if so why?

Hegel's philosophy critically addresses the concept of the "thing-in-itself" primarily associated with Immanuel Kant. In Kant's philosophy, the "thing-in-itself" (Ding an sich) refers to the reality that exists independently of our sensory experience and understanding, which we can never fully know. Hegel critiqued this notion, arguing that the "thing-in-itself" is not entirely unknowable. For Hegel, reality (including the "thing-in-itself") is both knowable and expressible through the dialectical process, which encompasses thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. Hegel believed that everything in reality, including human thought and the material world, is interconnected and can be understood through this dialectical progression. He argued that by using reason, humans could progressively understand the essence and truth of reality, including the nature of things as they are in themselves. Thus, for Hegel, the "thing-in-itself" is not a remote, inaccessible mystery, but a concept that can be comprehended as it unfolds and reveals itself in and through the dialectic of history and human consciousness. This idea aligns with his broader philosophical system that emphasizes absolute idealism, where the development of the Geist (spirit) and its realization is central.

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MissChief13
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I haven't read both their works and I am not sure what 'thing' they're referring to. Is it a species, amber, consciousness, love, mathematical equation, the universe, etc.? With my limited understanding, I say... the existence of something is not contingent to our awareness of it. We can also know something, but mostly not entirely. What did he mean by interconnected and which ones are? Human thought is connected to the material world because humans are part of it and their senses perceive the material world and guides their way in it. Is the human awareness complete? Do other beings observe things we can't? Whose observation is more accurate? Is everything just physical?

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MaT
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I am not that familiar with the work of both, Kant and Hegel. But the way you put it, I would disagree with both, to a certain degree. Yes, there is an objective reality independant of our mind. Does that mean we can't know everything? Maybe, but so far I don't know about anything we can not know. Is the outside world interconnected with our mind? Somewhat yes, but not in an idealistic, spiritual way. At least there is no evidence for that.

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