Chells

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Opinion?

Is it true, (talking to the men out there) if you feel a woman is out of your league, or maybe intimidates you in some way, she's intelligent, independent, beautiful.... will you not shoot your shot? Will you just assume you have no chance? Or why is it guys don't go after a woman of a higher caliber? so many times I've been told that a guy doesn't want to date me because I'm too good for them, but shouldn't you want to Date someone who will push you to be the best version of yourself? Women, do you get the same excuses from men?

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Neo

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I dated a guy who told me I'm too good for him and that I'm the kind of woman who deserved the world and more. At first I just thought flattery but whatever. I really liked him..a few months later we break up because "I'm too good for him" (His words not mine) I don't know...I think it's just something that men say when they want to break up with you and not make you feel bad. Or just reject you without making you feel bad. I still have so many questions about this whole "you're too good for me". IT MAKES NO SENSE Who finds chocolate that tastes way too good and says...hmm I'm gonna give it up and settle for something less tasty "because you're too good for me"??

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Chells

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Hahahaha yes I agree maybe it's an excuse but I have so much more respect for honesty then excuses and lies

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Jacob

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I feel like the chocolate analogy doesn’t hold well. After all chocolate is for consumption, while humans are not. After reading what you said though, maybe there are men who say it to end a relationship they don’t want to be in, but I feel like there are plenty who genuinely feel like they would weight their partner down if they stayed with them. I’ve never been in a relationship, but I know my insecurities would get the best of me if someone was acting interested in me when they seemed was to good for me.

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Neo

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@Jacob It's hard to imagine someone genuinely giving someone up someone who seems to be happy being "too good". I get that people have insecurities but when you're in a relationship you talk about those and help each other deal with them. So knowing that the other person is willing to stick with you, or be patient while you work through your insecurities. Would you give that person up?

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Georgiy

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@Jacob That's nonsense. The phrase "If you really love somebody, you you'll let them go" sounds good in the movies and romance novels, but people rarely work that way. I don't think most real people would really think that they "weight down" their partner. In absolute majority of cases people leave because they're not satisfied with their partners

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Dennis

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@Georgiy The phase "if you love them, you will let them go" is intended to mean that if someone wants to leave, better to let them go, than to stay together and have longings for someone else, or someone more compatible to them. If you both willing to work on things, she's never out of your League.

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Maggie

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@Georgiy It applies to some situations. I have loved someone who ended up wanting kids. I didn't. Staying together made no sense as we would have become both miserable, so I set him free out of love for him.

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Craig

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I think the issue with men that feel like women are too good for they're too good for them is the woman doesn't appreciate the man even though she's probably in a better financial situation So that leaves the guy feeling like hes not enough

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Georgiy

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@Dennis Hm, yeah, I think you're right, I misapplied that phrase. And I agree that when both partners are putting in the effort is the best case scenario, that makes relationships work

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Georgiy

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@Maggie I think it's different though. You might think that you left because you didn't want to hinder your partner, but I think what really happened is that your partner did not align with your priorities and desires, and you decided to look for more appropriate person instead. And that's fine, most people look for what works for them, nothing wrong with that

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Dennis

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@Georgiy Yes, all relationships need communication, or it will never work.

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Cory

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Insecurities. It's as simple as feeling bad about wasting someone's time and life. It could also come from the fact that he feels he's done some terrible things in past relationships and doesn't deserve the best. It's a vicious cycle but I think something that needs to be understood by women is that men won't talk about these issues most of the time. It's hard to have to deal with them head on because the way society makes us feel about exposing our emotions and feelings. Feeling under women is also becoming a norm since the way society puts men down for most things and raises the bar to even interact with them. It feels less like someone on the same level as you and more like trying to reach some sort of goddess. Personally, I refuse to try and reach for women I believe are "Out of my league" simply because I know I'm not in a stable condition. My insecurities are something I need to deal with also but mostly simply because I just don't think that trying to be with someone that knows what they want from life is helpful for you or them if you are stuck trying to figure that out. The point of this all is that most men are too closed and won't share the full extent of their feelings. Picking onto smaller sighs and attitude towards things is basically one of the only ways to get men stuck in a toxic masculine lifestyle to express themselves.

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Neo

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@Cory I wish men realised that some women don't mind the messy situations, working through his insecurities and building a Man up or allowing him the space to grow. I don't know if any woman would relate to this but there's no such thing as a perfect man. Men are like wet clay. You find one you can work with and you make him whatever or help him be whatever he wants to be. Think once men realise what they are worth and that their past mistakes don't define them, that their insecurities are not permanent aspects of who they are. More relationships would be healthier. I get that some women don't make it easy at all for a man to open up. But if someone is willing to love you. You should let them..they clearly see something good in you that you don't 🤷🏾‍♀️

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Caleb

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You're saying it's like saying "it's not you it's me"

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Gene

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Truthfully it's kind of an unspoken problem in dating especially if you dated for a while women like to go nuclear when someone breaks up with them men may call you names but women try to destroy your life throw your dirty laundry in the street so blowing your head up and making you feel good during a breakup is very effective in leaving a relationship without retaliation

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Dave

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men can be a lot more self-conscious you might think. But everyone is different

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Kurtis

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In my experience it's not worth the effort. Couldn't count the number of openers left on read. Why bother shooting your shot when you don't even get the closure of a "thx but no thx" lol. It's what leads to swipe culture, IMHO. Doesn't matter what's in the bio, most folk made their decision at first glance.

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Alden

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This. Rejecting hurts even if it is superficial but not even getting responses hurts more in some ways. Why take a shot you know you are going to miss?

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Georgiy

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@Alden I mean, on the dating apps, we're just a product. An item on the shelf. You don't apologize to the merchandise at the supermarket you browse but don't buy

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Alden

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@Georgiy True but the products on the shelf aren't sentient and don't have to deal with the rejection or mental pain :/ I mean yes I could shoot my shot with everyone I match with but at the same time I'd rather not waste there time as well and in the other side of the coin very few people are reaching out to me as well. Most dating apps are first impressions only where no one reads through the profiles and sadly that isn't the way it is supposed to be imo. I'm not produce sitting in a bin in a person with complex emotions who through previous experience and trauma has a relatively decent idea on how those interactions are going to play out so I stick to my lane. I'd rather reach out to people I think I would actually get along with then just everyone, personally, but that may just be me.

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Georgiy

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@Alden I agree with you, Alden, and I try not to treat people like they're produce. But not everyone is like that. You might have feeling and all that, and yet others might not care about that at all. There are many shallow consumerists out there. Peace, brother, and good luck in your search

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Chells

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@Georgiy Wow such good conversation so what I'm taking from this is that it's better to acknowledge someone and respectfully decline then to just not respond at all just so you are being a better human being? But am I doing It so my feelings are taken care of or the other person's?

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Danny

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@Chells I'd say both.

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Jess 🌻

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@Alden Because practice makes perfect? Sometimes that's the one in a million shot that miraculously makes it in and you'd never of known had you not taken it? Looks can be deceiving too... The ago old 'don't judge a book by it's cover' rings true in a lot of instances... Sort of like the OG poster @Chells said, she lost a lot of weight: some people (not specifically her) may have residual feelings of insecurity that come from the pervious ways they "did life". I for example don't think I bring that much to the table; but I like to think I can talk to and be friendly to pretty much anyone I come across. But, then again I'm not specifically speaking in a romantic sense there.

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Keith L.

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@Chells I feel that it is common decency to reply to someone, even if it is a no thanks nit just for the other person but also yourself. It doesn't cost a thing to return a message. It doesn't cost a thing to be nice either. And I know, it doesn't cost a thing to be an ass as well. But... if you are kind enough to just respond no thanks or not interested it might just be good karma for all involved.

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Exoticrose

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I do thx or no thx lol

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Alden

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@Jess 🌻 You do have some strong points but my insecurities of talking to people in general are long standing and deeply rooted. A lot of it can be blamed on how we were raised back in the day. As kids we were to be seen and not heard and for the most part we kept out of sight and out of mind of anyone around us (out at least I did and took that to heart). So for me I have a strong sense of not wanting to "bother" anyone who o don't think I will have a strong chance of compatability with. Yes a lot of this stems from my own hang ups and my asd but it is something I will have to work on. Your mentioning of someone going from bigger to smaller also rings a bit true for me a well. I'm down almost 100 lbs from my heaviest to now after a few years of hard work and I have noticed people looking at me differently like most have not before. I still have a fair ways to go still but I think I know what you are trying to say. Thanks for your advice and comment.

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Xin

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@Alden Relationships to slme extent is similar to a job interview no? You might get rejected by 100 companies that you would like to work for, but if you truly want to find a job in a company that wants you and that you want them, it is worth the pain of rejection.

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Alden

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@Xin Bad analogy for me. Other than my first job at 15 every other job I've gotten was through my network of friends and former coworkers and was a sure thing. Points to prove why maintaining a good relationship with your former places of employment is a good idea when possible!

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Jess 🌻

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@Alden Stay the course and, you're worth it - no matter what your brain tries to make you believe 😉

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Xin

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@Alden A great social network is indeed important. Although it may be a bad analogy for you. I'm using this to explain my view of it. Also, it seems that rejection is very difficult for you to handle from everything that you have written so far. PS: Please don't get me wrong. I am much younger than you. You probably know more than me. [Edit]: My point is you have to try and fail to really get what you want sometimes. Well, if you truly want something if not there is no point trying.

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Neo

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Theres a little story I read somewhere, can't remember where but it stuck with me. Might botch it but here it goes... "A man was in love with a woman but she chose someone else over him. Instead of being sad or angry the man was happy. His friend saw him and asked why he wasn't sad that the woman he has loved for so long doesn't love him. The man simply replied that he just lost someone who didn't love him but she lost someone who loved her" Essentially you need to see your value and your worth and if someone doesn't see it it's their loss and not yours. What you want in your life is quality and not quantity so focus on the ones that accept you and be happy that the ones who don't value you leave your life or don't even bother with you.

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Georgiy

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@Chells It looks like I accidentally sent my reply to you to a different person. Check out my reply to Ania

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Kevin

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If I see someone I feel is out of my league, I feel like she gets enough attention as is from everyone, so best not waste my time I guess lol

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Georgiy

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Hm, I agree, it's very hard to keep a woman who has tons of options. But such is the burden of being a male. We compete for women, and not the other way around Edit: replaced "burger" with "burden", damn autocomplete 😂

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Dennis

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@Georgiy Agree. Women have more choices, and get the choices.

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Chells

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@Dennis That's not necessarily true sometimes I choose someone and they don't choose me

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Dennis

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@Chells I hope you find someone that is compatible with you. It just takes forever to find a person like that.

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Caleb

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Yeah, I think to some extent I just don't want to be yet another guy asking her out that she's frustrated about.

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OC

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It's very much a matter of self esteem and ego. While leagues are arbitrary social strata, some can simply ignore this by following avenues that they think break through the barriers, or by simply being completely ignorant of their own capabilities (usually towards overestimation). For instance, someone with money will generally not hesitate trying his luck, though this may also be the type of personality that made them successful. But he may be more willing to try his luck because he feels he has something to offer (even though this is very materialistic - you gotta listen to Madonna on that). It's also simple statistics - I would venture to guess (since I am not an attractive woman in any light or filter) attractive women get far more attention than frumpy counterparts. The movie trope of the pretty girl never getting attention because everyone thinks she's too hot and don't even try, isn't actually real, is it? Sun Tzu's AoW suggests only to fight a battle that is likely to have a favorable outcome. And In a typical male role (outdated provider notion - but still somewhat ingrained) the intimidation factor might simply be, "What the hell am I bringing to this party?". Personally my self criticism (which I believe to be fair and accurate) definitely prevents me from even trying when I find someone really attractive (physically/mentally). The more you care for this person, the worse it may get. I think it's natural, albeit a bit misguided, to think it selfless to want the best for a (potential) partner, and if your self-esteem is low, you may feel like you are impeding their chance for greater happiness. The irony is that you actually overule their choice to be with you, thereby undermining them. It's funny how stupid we can sometimes be - even with seemingly the best intentions. (Though as another poster said, this can also be an alternative form of "It's not you, it's me")

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Chells

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Many different avenues there. It's funny as an adult I don't find myself going out or drinking I am more of a home body but yet I'm always being told how attractive I am.... however growing up I kid you not I was so ugly no guys ever looked my way so I never had much attention. Now I get mens attention but im told im too intimidating and non approachable even which im honestly the nicest person. So it's just very crazy out there nothing ever makes sense and every situation is different

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Sean

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@Chells I was also an 'ugly duckling' except I wasnt ugly, I was just emaciated - skin and bones. I was 135 for most of my time in high school and the one girl I may have had a chance with hugged me on day and said 'if you had more muscle, you'd be attractive'. So, after highschool I got that and now I don't even want to reap the benefits. I have women with crushes on me at various places I've been employed at. I go out to stores and get long, longing stares...it doesn't motivate me to act. All this to say that you and I may still see ourselves as that undesirable kid and not approach people ourselves / seem approachable.

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OC

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@Chells The question is now - how many requests will be flooding your inbox because of woefully inadequate men that suddenly think they have a chance with you. Good luck!

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Chells

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@OC That happens regardless of what I say anyway 😅

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Exoticrose

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@Chells Yup

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Leif

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INTP
Virgo

we quickly learn that "women of a higher caliber" are often times self absorbed, and simultaneously pulling the strings of a multitude of other men. with women in western culture being constantly told that they can always get better, we men tend to be viewed as expendable, and with this cat + mouse game we have to play just to have a shot with one of these "higher caliber" women, it often isn't worth the time, energy, or heartache. now guys and girls, if thats offensive and "women have a tough time too" take an objective look at the disparity between the two groups of people looking to date and what their experiences are. if this offends you on a personal level, you are probably a prime suspect for all of what I have just said. Not that I care, I've found mine and I'll never have to participate in this charade ever again. stay happy and stay healthy folks.

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Jonesy

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Lots of replies in this thread but your seems the most reasonable one. Now I can only speak from my experience and it's undoubtedly influenced by the city I live in, but the impression I get that the culture we live in went from empowerment to enabling. There's alleviating insecurities and then there's feeding delusions. Human psyche operates under certain parameters which includes categorizing, perceiving hierarchies, and operating in the world of finite resources. When you instill the dogma that no matter who you are or what you do you are absolutely wonderful and need no self-improvement, then a person who isn't a complete physical and mental mess will think of themselves that much more awesome than an obese person with a BPD who is "wonderful just the way they are". But no matter what kind of world you build in your head that will not change the world that you live in. Male and female behavior are interconnected on a macro scale so a large amount of delusional women will inevitably result in a growing amount of men who are desperate (simps and creeps), a select fortunate few who will reap the benefits of a skewed system, and the largest remaining contingent of "quiet quitters". I imagine it's the last category of men that the OP is talking about.

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Leif

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@Jonesy oh no, you're in the thick of this paradigm out there too. I was referring to a "5" woman on the simplified 1-10 rating system being revered as a goddess, and a 5 man being considered undesirable. those are not winning odds for a solid 3 such as myself, which is why I found my treasure in greener pastures. That was a very interesting way to expand upon what I had said. Now that I think further about the whole "woman of a higher caliber" thing I had fixated on, it's an ego trip in and of itself. One created through the culturally fed delusion as you had mentioned no doubt.

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Exoticrose

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Aquarius

High caliber have standards

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Leif

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@Exoticrose Yes, and fortunately for them, most men don't have theirs high enough.

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Mister A

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'hypergamy' is a real thing. And a masculine 'i don't need a man' 'boss grinch' spirit is definitely a turn off; hardly intimidating but maybe disheartening and most definitely annoying.

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Roy

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Usually it's fears of rejection and ridicule. And I don't know if it's restricted to any one gender. The form of ridicule is different depending on where you sit on the gender spectrum. Like women are often ridiculed to be not pretty enough and mem are often ridiculed to be not tall enough say. Also cultural norms see romantic rejection as a bad thing instead of just incompatibility. You maybe attracted to someone but they might not be attracted to you. Personally I don't let it bother me. My ex was taller than me and I went after her anyway. But I have learnt to ignore when someone is making fun of me for something I can't change (there is no use in getting mad at idiots). Just shoot your shot and remember if it didn't work it's usually not you but something completely out of your control!

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Chells

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I appreciate your comment a lot thank you

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OC

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I'm too good for me. But I can't get rid of myself.

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Chad

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I never feel women are out of my league. I try my best to start a conversation with them and see how they respond. If their body language is negative towards me after a little while of conversation I simply back off. Honestly some girls do come off snobby etc. But looks can be deceiving. Most men are possibly to shy to even strike a conversation with somone out of their league so they give up. I myself have terrible shy issues and it doesn't matter if they are out of my league or in it lol. But, if I do manage the courage it's rewarding for me after I take that step of making that first hello. I judge by yout character over sexual appeal. I honestly love an intelligent woman over looks and beauty. I'm wired a bit different lol

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Johannes

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Most people with no severe mental issues can judge their own looks and beauty rather accurate and know by heart within fractions of a second if someone is out of their league or not. "Not my type" has a true core. Then you need self esteem to still try, which many of not overly attractive/ experienced men lack. Fear of rejection makes it even harder. I wish I could just turn it off but I don't know how, and it hinders me to be my true self, which I think is nice, gentle, honest, humble, actually lovable. I once ruined a relationship with a girl out of my league cause I couldn't be the person and good character she obviously saw in me cause of the stated issues."Just a fool to believe I've got anything she needs - She's like the wind" over the top but has a true core. Hard to believe that anybody, especially out of your league, can love you if you don't truly love yourself. It's all a big showdown in your rabbit hole rain.

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Jas

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I'll go after whoever I want, no one's better than anyone else. We're all human lol

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Stephanye

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This has absolutely been an experience of mine. Four years ago, I was barely affording basic living expenses and was well below the poverty line and guys never outright told me I was "too good for them". Fast-forward a few years and I've turned it all around but now when guys hear what I do, what company I work for, and/or how much I make, I get a lot of "you're too good for me" and "you're probably looking for a guy that has more" or else I get unbearable levels of bragging in an attempt to impress me with material things but with no interest in me as a person. As a woman, it kind of feels like I can't win lol. Also although i know insecurities can be the culprit for guys that feel this way, but it's a bit offensive that they will assume that I'm shallow because I'm their definition of successful or attractive. I'm far more interested in finding a guy that I can be one half of a mischevious grumpy old couple with one day and who I can stand to hang out with on a Saturday than finding a 10 that's going to wait until I turn 60 and trade me in for three 20s lol. Plus, I think everyone is a work in progress even if they don't show it on the surface, I can't imagine most halfway intelligent attractive and/or accomplished women talk to a guy or get into a relationship with a guy without planning to work together with him to make both herself and him better people so the whole "didn't want to drag her down" thing? Doesn't make sense either. Just be honest if you don't feel you connect. It's much better than making someone feel punished for the work and effort they have put into their looks, career, or mindset.

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Chells

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I fully agree!!! I was making the same argument on another person's post about that too don't make assumptions on who I am as a person just because you find me attractive

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Donovan

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That's a question with a multi faceted answer. Every person has their own reason, but i would agree that all reasons relate to self esteem and self image, save one: it's a common misconception that very attractive women are already taken.

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Jesse

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No offense but I can think of Phew ways that can be taken. 1. He's gotten to know you and he's come to the conclusion that you have expectations that he doesn't like or can't tolerate in an intimate relationship. 2. And this is a really hard thing to do because it requires introspection and a long hard look in the mirror regarding your own character ask yourself what is a woman of high caliber and is that really me. 3. Ask yourself where your meeting these men and what your actual expectations are for a man and is this a reasonable expectation. Please keep in mind this is based off of my own experiences.

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Cory Shampine

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It's so easy to feel like she won't even consider me so no

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Chells

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U never know though

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Cory Shampine

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@Chells Ignorance is bliss, especially under constant rejection

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Chells

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@Cory Shampine I have been rejected too so I get it

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Nick

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Personally, I've always taken my shot, and if I'm turned down I take it in stride and move on. I think I was fortunate to have been raised to have the confidence that my humor, heart, charm, and wit does make me worthy of love. What I always look for too is shared passions and interests, and that's a key for me. I'm also extremely attracted to intelligence and razor sharp humor. Powerful women are attractive.

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𝕯𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖔𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖊

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Speaking for myself; I genuinely don't remember a time where I ever felt like a woman is out of my league. Never truly crossed my mind. If I was interested in her and thought we could work, I'd take a leap of faith. I would much rather be with a woman who I can grow with and will call me out when I need it.

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Peter

1mo

INFP
Taurus

6w7

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Sometimes I try my luck for the hell of it, and don't know how to respond when they actually reply. 🤣 But, yeah.. Usually I stay quiet if I feel they're out of my league. If they show interest, I wonder what the catch is. 🤷‍♂️

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Chells

1mo

ENTJ
Scorpio

Awww you should have more confidence just go for it and if they tell u no then just move on they don't deserve you anyway... thats how I look at it

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Edward

3mo

INTJ
Scorpio

9w1

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Higher caliber? Leagues? Sounds like you've got some internalized misogyny. Maybe you should worry less about how you rank among other women, less about the opinions of men who aren't interested in you, and worry more about how the baggage you carry is distorting your world view. There are no Leagues. There are no calibers. There is only people.

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Scott

3mo

INTJ
Capricorn

9w8

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In my experience woman like that tend to b ummmmmmmm.........rather conceded and mean or just over all shallow. So it's usually a waste of time. Now I'm not saying it's all of em.

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