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Kelly
Kelly

2y

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Have you ever been fired from a job?

How did it go down?

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Wayne
Wayne

2y

INFJ

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Actually never been fired surprisingly, but I have walked out & quit many jobs lol.

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Ashoka Tano
Ashoka Tano

2y

ISFP

Cancer

Yes I lost my job on Tuesday I didn’t make the cut was 10 days from my 90 days got to love at will state

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Matthew
Matthew

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Never been fired, per se, but I've been laid off. I moved to Maine to help a pastor start a church. At the time, I thought I would become a pastor myself someday. My job was to get things started so that we could then pass them (ideally) off to volunteers. So, I managed the church's books. I managed the music for the service and handled the bulletin. I helped with some of the seasonal programming we put together. I functioned as a spiritual presence one day if the week at a local university under their chaplaincy program. And the church paid for me to take a seminary class. It was to be one course a quarter and my first class was called "Spiritual Formation for Ministry" My official title was "assistant to the pastor." More than an admintrative assistant. Less than an assistant pastor. It was hard. And while the pastor and I were friends, I found that we had some fundamental differences in vision for what the church should be doing. We ended up using the same words to mean two different things. So we had conflict. And I can only imagine it irritated the pastor when we weren't operating off the same sheet of music. Especially when I was responsible for choosing the music. Our plan was always to break things up into two year blocks. And at the end of each block, we were to evaluate where we were at. And plan the next block. So, the first two year block came to an end. (I had actually been on the payroll for 30 months, but the first six months was taken up by fundraising.) The pastor asked what my vision was for the next block. I told him I was excited to see how we could minister to the LBGTQ+ population at the university. I asked the head chaplain who the most undeserved people were spiritually, and she quickly named that group. I had no idea how I would be received by that community. I knew there would be those in the church who disapproved. But I was excited to try. And, if nothing else, listen and communicate that they were worthy of love regardless of how they had been treated by the Church in the past. I had some ideas of how to get involved in the local high school and find some creative ways to minister to the students there. I had spoken with the principal, who was open to considering some creative ways I could use my background to complement the education that they were trying to give the students ... and basically volunteer some free labor as a sub or aide. I didn't have an agreement nailed down yet, but I was optimistic. I can't remember exactly what else I had in mind, but I remember it related to trying to figure out how to make church relevant to people in the city .... not expecting them to come to us and act a certain way, but to try to cater our service to where we could be if most help. The pastor listened to me and nodded. I knew what I was proposing was very different than what he thought the church looked like. And I figured I couldn't do everything I wanted .... but I hoped I could get at least one of my suggestions through. And he confirmed that what I was proposing wasn't really where the church was. And he told me that what he felt the church needed most was a part-time secretary. It was my turn to nod. I knew he struggled with managing his schedule. And I knew it was just going to get harder. He said he knew I didn't want to be his secretary. I agreed. I didn't. Then he said that the church couldn't afford both my position and a secretary. I agreed ... again, I managed the books so I knew where we stood. I was expecting I would need to do another round of fundraising to make up the difference. But then, he surprised me and told me that he didn't think I was cut out for vocational ministry. That comment hit me hard. But it wasn't out of left field. In my seminary class one of the sessions was on "understanding your call," and I found that I couldn't relate to most of what they described. It made me wonder myself if I "fit" this job. He told me he would keep me on until I could find another job. And he did. And after he laid me off, he paid me as a consultant to train the secretary on days I had off the other job. While it might sound harsh, he did it because he honestly cared about me, and wanted the best for me. And it was. I spent 18 months soul searching and working through work counseling programs until I found a job that was a much better fit, starting a new career that I am still in. So, while it was rough, I think the pastor made the right call. I was disappointed not to try some of my more creative ideas .... but I don't think the church I was in at the time would have been receptive. And while it took me 20 years, I finally realized that that denomination and I just have irreconcilable differences. So, that journey continues. Fortunately, there are churches here that are more concerned about ministering to people than making sure they fit a certain "look." And while I'm not sure the church I am attending now will be the one I ultimately join, it's nice not having to argue over those points anymore. And maybe I can reach back to that time period and see if any of the ideas I had then still hold up today.

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