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Posted Monday, November 13, 2023
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And Christian’s believe an invisible sky daddy physically made man from some clay-mud and a stick, and woman from that man’s rib. So how would this meme be much different. Both describe the creation of humans from elements of the earth itself. Why wouldn’t evolution be God’s tool for creation to ensure assimilation? He works in mysterious ways no? God created everything, even time right? So this means that absolutely everything science proves and observes is of God’s creation, and then science reveals the truth of God. The difference is that science when observing evidence to the contrary of beliefs, changes the beliefs to fit the current findings. The Bible does not, well it does, but that’s a separate debate topic. *Christianity is used solely as a point of continuity. As the disparaging of Athieism, at least where I live, is the sole propriety of Christians. Certainly other religions make pariahs of nonbelievers. And if you are bent on inclusion, I’m sure Fredrik will not mind other religions’ take on atheists, or other atheists’ takes on creation/origin, How the predominant religion treats or feels about nonbelievers. I’d be curious too. In fact any other religious creation stories besides Genesis you would like to share that is a fully held wide-spread religious belief that tells a different story than Genesis? Can we hear from Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Zoroastrian, a Buddhist, Yoruban and/or Mami Wata, even Rosicrucian or Mandaeism or Unitarian. I’d be interested in any of your creation doctrine.
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@Jordan Wurz I understand you are saying that I didn’t use a label, but that I made a generalization by lumping together believers of a supernatural deity, right? As to my unanswered question, ‘how did I do that,’ was my generalization that some other religions make pariahs of nonbelievers. The absolute here may not be how you are reading it. The only absolute is in that it does happen. We are all aware of the spectrum of religions and the faithful adherants thereof and that not all of them judge non-believers by calling for them to be killed or stoned to death, only some. Originally I did think you were saying that I was lumping all ‘believers’ into Christianity, so it didn’t seem as though you had read my inquiry for others to weigh in, and clearly I was very wrong about that. In turn you could have been as clear in your first post as your second. I was not offended. I’m almost never offended by things like this or you, your take on my emotional state isn’t correct in that manner. Some people are just more verbose. I am a curious person who has at one point in my life made a serious study of religion, but it is academic. Given an opportunity for other religions to weigh in IS an attempt at learning about the first persons’ accounts of how non-believers are regarded by their religions/sects. It’s not offensive to me that Christian’s believe what they believe and often are resistant to facts, or even that they judge nonbelievers the way they sometimes do. It only bothers me when a religion or the religious attempt to hold agency over my will and intention based on a dogma that does not hold true for me, similar to any offense one religion would take to another religion that argues one is right and the other wrong. To me it’s just a logical inconsistency, so if it wasn’t clear to you, perhaps I failed to impart that Science (relative to the meme) isn’t apart from Christianity, or any faithful belief, and instead I offered to make room for it. Not just express discontent for the supernatural. If it had actually offended me it would be my pedagogical self not my religious or spiritual self. Not that you specified. Thank you for expounding in a reply, it shared your intention in a much clearer way than your short original post. Your insight was deeper than I initially thought. Despite its assumption of negative intent.
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