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4y
neither big bang or evolution disprove creationism. i believe they could all fit together. ie: if your kid asked you why they need to plug in their tablet to use it. are you going to go into detail about power plants, electric wires, the history of Franklin and Edison. no, your not. your just simply going to say because it needs power to run. same thing a God wouldnt tell us well i took these bosons and electrons and smashed together till i got protons and then made hydrogen.....all the way to planets and then making living things....etc etc. they are probably going to say i just made it with my thoughts/words. also they are still both theories, not real proven facts yet. still being discovered/tested. (edited)
4y
Science is a method of measuring what we can with what tools, instruments and understanding we have at the time. Which is why rewind 100 years ago, science did not include the technology or understandings we have today about our universe. We once believed via science, Earth was the centre of the universe. Science doesn't have all the answers, nor does someone who claims there is a creator. Yet science agrees there is nature, I would ask science, where did nature come from? Where did the laws of physics come from? Where did the laws of chemistry come from? And so on for every field in science. Science did not invent these laws, they were observed and translated into human understanding.
4y
I think it really depends on the person. If someone wants to have a debate about it, that's great. Debate them. I personally feel like evolution or the big bang doesn't have anything to do with the existence of a creator. A creator could have caused the big bang or evolution, so just because they exist does not disprove a creator. So why would it prove anything the opposite way? Talking about the big bang or evolution is a time wasting tactic to try to get you to talk about science when you're not a scientist, and take the focus off the fact they have no evidence for their claims. Let's say the big bang and evolution are proven wrong. "We don't know how the universe started" is not the same as "That means there is a creator." It's up to them to prove there is a creator, not to just try to prove every other theory wrong. We may find out the world has come from natural means besides the big bang or evolution. Their existence or non-existence doesn't prove whether a creator did it. If they don't want to debate, I think it's best to just avoid the topic. You can't have a real conversation about a topic if they don't want to.
4y
I just change the topic or ask them questions about their beliefs because I'm genuinely interested. I don't take it upon myself to change someone's beliefs because I'm not going to, it's basically impossible. So I just treat it as a good conversation where we can talk about views and agree to disagree.
3y
I just say big bang and evolution is not incorrect, but when it comes to a creator, there must be a force, a power or someone or something who/which created everything because everyrhing is too perfect for us humans to digest.
3y
I will just listen to them, although knowing that the theory about "creator" was completely man-made to manipulate us for the greeds of ruling class. Don't get me wrong, neither Bigbang theory nor creator theory is scientifically proven entirely. However, the Bigbang theory is postulated through tangible scientific and mathematical evidences.
3y
Typically I laugh and gently remind them that a large part of the concept we now cal the "Big Bang" was derived by a member of the Church. If I'm feeling particularly contrarian, I reinforce that by specifically noting the *Catholic* Church. Usually I then walk away leaving folks to question my religious beliefs 😂 so you know this has happened more than once
4y
These claims are not mutually exclusive. If the person claims that there has to be a creator, I can relate. If they say they believe there is a creator, I respect that. If they claim there IS creator, I mark them with a red flag - agree to disagree. If they start claim everything happened literally like it's described in their favorite fairy tale, I look for an exit.
4y
I let people live in their bubble the only thing that matters to me personally is what I believe. I deal with myself every day so my outlook matters most to me. If people wanna argue I leave the conversation. *with only the goal to force their outlook on me rather than to understand a different outlook, I wouldn’t waste my time arguing.* “Agree to disagree” is my go to. (edited)
3y
Well, being I am a creationist, I let them know what I think. The Big bang would never go off without something to tip the equilibrium. I believe that was God creating the heavens and the Earth. God then created several different creatures. Each one he made represents what we call a genus today. They called it a "kind" each kind reproduced, and their offspring underwent subtractive evolution to adapt to the multitude of environments in the post flood Era. God made it so thar each living thing will produce in its own kind, which is why cats and dogs can't breed.
3y
You're entitled to your opinion, let me be entitled to mine and let's agree to disagree that both are logical opinions created in faith and science and call it a day. No use arguing who is right, who is wrong, and who is a winner or a loser, if we are ever to get along, we need neutral ground on things like this, otherwise the only thing we will ever agree on is how much we hate each other's opinions.
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