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Posted Sunday, October 13, 2024
11d
INTP
Leo
What are your thoughts?
I’m surrounded by a lot of christian people, yet I deconstructed from a belief in a god a few years ago. I’d love a deep and honest conversation about this, preferably with a theist or ex-theist.
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Kauffy
11d
INTP
Virgo
I was very religious when I was young, and I started to figure out that it was nonsense when I was about 12 or 13. And then I went through like a militant atheism. In my early twenties, which I'm sure everyone enjoyed. But as I've gotten older, I realize the foolishness. The important part about religion isn't the deity, it's the religion. In other words, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you believe in God or Jesus, but if you follow what they set down for you, and live life this way, I suspect you will be much happier, and on a grander level, you would be part of a better society. Unfortunately, now, we just have people who enjoy wearing the label, but not doing the work. Like a huge fatso wearing a spandex gym outfit. Like, dude, I can see you ain't been washing no feets. So a few months ago, I started inventing a neo-religion, which has its very base tenet in the fact that it's made up, but the idea is that if you follow the practice of it, you could live a more fun, centered, spiritually connected life, but with completely made up deities. You know, just like Jesus and Horus and Baphomet.
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Josh
11d
INTP
Virgo
I think Atheism can be just as repressive as any other repressive belief system. Communist countries are good examples of that. What it means to be religious can also mean very different things to people. A religious free thinker can use their faith to liberate themself from repression from dogmatic belief systems. The secular revolution is a pretty good example of Protestants fighting against Catholic control and repression of free thought. Today it is interesting to see that at the same time that many people break free from strict closed religious communities. Where there is often abuse, neglect and control. People are also embracing religion because it is used to promote natural rights, reason and free thought. I think ultimately it boils down to looking at labels and not substance. My personal belief is that if people become nihilistic it's harmful to most people. And I believe non-theistic belief systems can be extremely dangerous.
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Maggie (eeveeas123)
11d
ENFJ
Virgo
I have belief in God but my basic beliefs don’t always align with most people’s views on Christianity (Eg. I support LGBTQ+, I’m a proud lesbian, I don’t go to church every Sunday, I don’t pray every night, etc.). Also, I really want to believe Hell isn’t real because we have all done things we shouldn’t be proud of and everyone is fighting a battle of their own
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Vedanth
11d
INFJ
Libra
Dogmas keep you bound to beliefs. Rules keep you fixed, and love for life all but dries up. Religions are dead. If you wish to, approach God directly. Untethered to any belief system. You can start by asking, first of all, if there is a God. Meditate on this thought for a few moments in silence. Let the answer reveal itself from inside. Why inside? Because whatever made the world also made us. See where this takes you. It is a different instrument - internal perception. Very different from our eyes or ears (external senses). I wish you luck on this journey. Peace.
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Andy
11d
INFP
Pisces
I think alot of religions primarily in the Christianity subject, catholics, Mormons, etc, don't properly practice their religion. Christian mythology does preach love and not judging others, yet they're so FREAKING judgmental modernly Likely stemming from the ancient manipulation of the church but that's another long subject. Regardless God and Jesus said it's a sin to judge others for that's THEIR job. And pastors see themselves as leaders, they should be unbiased guides. Look at other religions. Half of them don't have this issue. I was raised Wiccan and catholic. My dad faced these heavy judgments leading to his own disbelief in religion meanwhile my mother fully embraces her beliefs and our pagan history. I personally was an atheist growing up. But when I became a nomad I have experienced some mind boggling things I can't remotly explain logically and eventually accepted that science hasn't discovered and explained everything yet. That mythology and science don't have to be opposing.
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Anthony
11d
INTP
Virgo
Almost every religion or philsophy believes in a creator. Christians tend to have a very bittersweet version of GOD but the only version you should have is your own. And if you have "deconstructed" or detached from a belief in GOD, well see how long that serves you... (edited)
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Bee 🐝
11d
ENFP
Pisces
You know I may or may not offend so many people here by telling you this but every religion is created because someone philosophy get influenc other people and many other get into these philosophy and that's how a religion created. And the God you know why God doesn't have face or shape in every religion. Actually think about it. I have my meta truth' about it but you should think about it first (edited)
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Steven
11d
INTJ
Leo
What caused you to dissociate from that belief system?
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stax
11d
INFP
Virgo
Why not have a decent conversation with the person instead of thinking about what belief structures they have; if you meet rigidity in yours or the others - work around it cleverly as adapting flexibility; and make sure it is felt...then, ut can lead to new areas of patterns, in both.
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JJ
11d
INFJ
I suppose I was once some manner of theist, though I didn’t believe in the Christian version. As someone who has pretty much always been alone, it’s a super nice idea that maybe someone out there is rooting for you. That everything I’ve learned and experienced was real and it was significant. It was a slow process coming to accept that while my life is significant to ME, it’s not significant to anyone else. The universe inside of my mind will cease to exist when my brain ceases to function.
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Christopher
11d
INTP
Aquarius
Interesting to think about
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Jaymes
10d
INTJ
Capricorn
It's nothing really that you would want to go to deep with I would think, most people would just confuse themselves, this is just my opinion, but I believe it to be fact in my mind but the universe is conscious and gives us all we need,.. that's it no more to it than that
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Miguel
3d
INTJ
Gemini
I was reading the bible for, like the 7th time, when I was 12, then I put it in the rack where I had other books. Later when I was going to pick it up I found it was literally indistinguishable from the other tales, books or stories. It had a main character, a plot, plottwist, the main character dies but resurrected and was like a wizzard. From that moment on I just couldn't see religion in other way but like others books. I wondered, If i were greek... Would the oddesy be like that?? Would I believe Zeus would smite me?? When I was 15 I had completely stopped any kind of belief and found science as the way of understanding the universe. It was kinda relieving not gonna lie. Nothingness awaits for all of us, and I couldn't care less about it.
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Hafsa
10d
ISTP
Cancer
Peace ✌️
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