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David
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it is logically incoherent to love yourself

getting and staying healthy and educated are just the implied mandates of having a human body and mind. it's not self-love to eat spirulina and read a book. it's doing your duty. everything else is indulgence but, you want to dress it up with the patina of philosophy and morality, especially with the amount of bandwidth the term/idea takes up in some of your lives. how about self-sacrifice? I never hear anything about it. my swipe kept trying to autocorrect to 'self-care' just now while I was trying to write it. get out of your heads. your desires and emotions are actually not that important and, their satiation and entertainment unfulfilling.

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Spence

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You're trying to apply logic to an illogical world. This whole vexation of yours is illogical. Human after all.

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Will

Will

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Sagittarius

Get what out of your head?

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Matt

Matt

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ENFJ

Scorpio

Well I usually defer to one of my favorites "You can't pour from an empty cup" what good are you to another person if you can't take care of yourself or if no one replenishes you as well. You love yourself so you can share that with another person

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Jack

Jack

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As someone with depression, it is self love to indulge yourself. I have to force myself to have joy, and to do the things I once enjoyed or even to get bathed, it's a lot of effort for me not to just sleep my life away and not see the point of doing anything. I struggle with the obligation to my own self-care. Even with antidepressants I don't look after myself very well, so I'm calling bs on your opinion on self-care. It doesn't define my experience, it's not a duty, it's a chore and one I'm frankly bored of doint, but it's unfortunately what keeps me going and keeps me to an extent "sane".

As someone with depression, it is self love to indulge yourself. I have to force myself to have joy, and to do the things I once enjoyed or even to get bathed, it's a lot of effort for me not to just sleep my life away and not see the point of doing anything. I struggle with the obligation to my own self-care. 

Even with antidepressants I don't look after myself very well, so I'm calling bs on your opinion on self-care. It doesn't define my experience, it's not a duty, it's a chore and one I'm frankly bored of doint, but it's unfortunately what keeps me going and keeps me to an extent "sane".

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Jeff

Jeff

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The universal human socio-physiological experiences in this world are rife with an imbalance between being nurtured and trauma. Trauma is more prevalent. Each of these influences one's motivation to express upon society their overall demeanor in varying capacities according to the origin of the influences. This is due to the instinctual drive of adapting to the environment that you're in and experience the most of. As a result, the imbalance of traumatic experiences being more predominant, creates more trauma, which creates more trauma. In order to regress this imbalance, having a definition of healthy self love can positively influence the adaptive instinct to motivate one's self to reflect their self love upon society instead of their demeanor resulting from negative experiences. Speaking of self sacrifice, in Buddhism the quest for knowledge and understanding is contrary to achieving enlightenment. In my younger years I pursued enlightenment to escape trauma. I realized as I became closer to reaching it that the trauma is only retained by personal attachment to it. I abandoned my pursuit of enlightenment to remove my attachment to trauma. In the process of healing and removing it, I realized it was more important to pursue knowledge and wisdom to help others in healing and removing their attachment to trauma so that the world can become more balanced between traumatic events and being nurtured. I made the self sacrifice of becoming enlightened in exchange for helping others. That journey has inflicted many extreme traumatic situations upon myself that sometimes can be too much to bear. Each person has their own unique journey through this life. Universally applying pressure to others to seek out a specific path of thinking is contrary to personal growth. Abandoning attachments to experiences that incite a self love in order to achieve a structured society will always create more harm within that society than intended. People need self love in order to psychologically heal from trauma. Removing the emotional aspect of psychology & philosophy is extremely harmful. Even animals understand the depth of emotional value. That is why elephants mourn their deceased, among many other examples; all of which are interdependent on that species' environments and adaptation to those environments. Each species choosing how much they integrate emotional value into their survival dependent upon their environment. In humanity's bid for survival, too much self love and not enough create an environment that either weakens or intensifies our survival instincts. Too much of either motivates individual cultures to turn against each other or against their own culture. In each event, those cultures become vulnerable to the prey of cultures with the opposing imbalance of survival instincts. All warfare originates from survival instincts. Those instincts are shared universally between the majority of any culture. Those instincts are shaped and influenced between the balance of having enough by means of feeling nurtured, having too much creating a desire of greed, or not having enough by means of the majority feeling the lack of being nurtured. Manipulation of these is a method that governments use to influence a majority of a particular culture for that government's personal agenda. The majority of people within most governments have survival instincts heightened to a level of having too much and becoming greedy, as being employed or designated within a government or military position often is rewarded with a sense of power and instituting a sense of desire to have more in order to motivate those people to pursue serving that government to their fullest abilities.

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Jose

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Capricorn

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I mean depends have you researched cynicism as you reach stoicism? With how the two school of thoughts reach each other.

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