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Posted Thursday, September 8, 2022
2y
INFP
Aries
This is a deep question but...
Do you PERSONALLY think someone that doesn't have a job, is worthless? Or does their presence in your life matter more than them working?
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Dylan
2y
INFP
Gemini
If being jobless makes one worthless could you, in good conscious say that any disabled, retired, or otherwise currently unemployed family of yours is worthless? Would their death not be a loss only because if their employment status? Think deeper, why are people conditioned to feel apathy towards it? Why do the rich elite want you to hate family that isn't being exploited by them?
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Chris/Ever
2y
ENTP
Taurus
I've been on the receiving end of the judgement, so I know. I haven't had a job until recently, and being unemployed wasn't a choice, it was because of people's perception of Autism and ADHD. I just got off of my second day of my first job and I'm mentally and physically exhausted. Sure it's overwhelming and I have lots of improvement to make but I want to improve. People mistake being overwhelmed as being lazy. I'm not always lazy, I sometimes can't clean my room because I'm overwhelmed by big portions of things, so I have to do things bit by bit sometimes, though I do really good with things like computer programming, though even then I still sometimes get overwhelmed. Always hear people out, regardless of what your first or second impression of them is. They may be holding immense burdens and mental disabilities and you won't even know it, you'll just interpret it as being an asshole or douche or lazy person, and then hang them out to dry. Don't do that, give them a chance.
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Thorbjorn
2y
ENFJ
Pisces
There could be a billion reasons to why the person doesn't have a job, and I wouldn't want to be prejudged upon that, so why should I? Important to have an open mindset about everything in life. Sometimes when you're too quick to judge you might just be missing out on an important detail, and you might ruin a great relationship before it even started.
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Sygin
2y
INTP
Virgo
Absolutely not. Our worth is defined by so much more than being "productive". It's only because of capitalist indoctrination that we tend to think in those terms.
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Apollo 🇬🇷
2y
INFJ
Scorpio
If they're refusing to work out of laziness, then no excuse. If they want to work, but are short out of luck with finding a job suitable to them, that's understandable; sometimes you can put out many applications and STILL not hear back from the employer. If they're working on their mental health first, then I'm all for it. All just depends on their situation! (edited)
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Shawn
2y
ENFP
Taurus
No one is inherently worthless, job or not. But your contributions to any part of community adds on to your alrdy inherent value. If your community is merely just you and abother person, a job isnt always necessary - but the bigger your community gets, the more you have to work to contribute to said community
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Liv
2y
INTJ
Pisces
Rather than having no job, I think the useless ones are those who don't want to take any part or responsibilities. If they live with other people, do they do the house chores too? If they don't work and rely on someone else for a living, do they find other beneficial activities to do or do they spend every day overconsuming and doing nothing? But if the jobless person aren't related like that to me, I'd still befriend them. Worth is inherent.
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Shannon
2y
INFP
Libra
People have value whether or not they work ❤️
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Baby
2y
ISFJ
Libra
Some people are having problem to get job even when they are overqualified, not because they are lazy or worthless, it's because of principles & pride. It's a matter they can't compromise with majority of using nepotism nor seeing the underhanded way of others earning extra through kickbacks or bribes. Knew this firsthand, person will rather live simply & moderate living than taking such advantages.... Maybe, it's foolishness, impractical... Person is not define by job, rather, the presence in life is more important in the whole, there's a role of hierarchy that needs us for responsibility, as siblings, children, elders or parents. Being there for others are more supportive morally & emotionally.
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Ally
2y
INFP
Capricorn
Hmm...no, I don't think that person's worthless. There are lots of people who don't have jobs but have their own businesses, people who just help out at home, people who use their talents and gain profit from it, etc. How about students? Only a few are studying and has a job at the same time, so are those who are purely studying worthless? No, of course not. There are also those who are still trying to find their path and is struggling in doing so. Not to mention, life isn't a race. I guess you could only call a person worthless if they not only do nothing to improve themselves, but is also pulling others down to their level just to feel better.
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Rob
2y
INFJ
Aries
No...just because someone isn't working doesn't make them worthless...nevertheless something about the person provides values...(ie being supportive...caring...loving...etc)...which varies from person to person...
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Jayden
2y
INTJ
Libra
I think defining a person's worth by their ability to perform is really damaging to people's image of others and themselves. In a perfect world, no person should be deemed worth more than another, but it doesn't usually work that way. As a counter point, I think work is something that should be used to help the person feel like an asset to their community and grow from. Not something you rate on a scale of worthy to worthless. That could only be if work was done for satisfaction, not survival. There's some interesting studies done on communities that behave this way that I'd recommend the read for.
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Deanna
2y
INFP
Cancer
A person's worth isn't based on their employment status. In general people are more than just the work they do and there are as many reasons why someone might not have a job as there are types of people in this world. It's all based on individual circumstances. But it never changes their worth as a person.
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Kay
2y
INFP
Pisces
NO. I don't think anyone's worth should be tied to if they have a job or not. It's sad that people can't get the basics without a job (generally speaking) when in the U.S, there should be more than enough money and resources to go around. I will add that it might be difficult for me to date someone with little ambition or that can't contribute at all financially, because I don't make that much either and combined income helps. But that doesn't mean that people without jobs are worthless, and I would still date my partner if she lost her job. It's worth noting I don't have a lot of debt or kids, so it's understandable why it would be a concern for some people. But worthless is harsh 😥
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Justen Slack
2y
INFP
Virgo
Jobs are irrelevant and a social construct now-a-days, too much value is placed on monetary achievement. If you work and find happiness in it awesome, I do, but often times people who are happily unemployed genuinely contribute to society through the things they do instead. An example would be how I work to keep the lights on, but my wife (we are open) contributes so much more to our houshold dynamic. She has all the freedom to do what she wants, we don't have gender roles, but I know she works way harder than I do supporting us emotionally. Money isn't important, even without a job she makes this house wealthy.
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Justin
2y
ENFP
Libra
Everyone matters no person should be measured worth you don't know why people are unemployed some people lost their business over covid some people can't find a job because a lot of places closed some people have disability until they can't work with
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Austin
2y
INFJ
Libra
I feel like no one is truly worthless. On the job thing specifically there are some who can't handle a job. I knew someone who was plagued with a lot of mental issues and he would try to get and maintain a job but unfortunately just couldn't handle it. His internal demons were just too much for him to handle.
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Mat
2y
INFP
Taurus
It saddens me that this sentiment actually exists among some people. Worth is not dependent on achievement or productivity, despite what modern society brainwashes people to believe.
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Kyle
2y
ENFP
Scorpio
Their presence matter ofc
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