Manahil

Posted Sunday, March 24, 2024

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Is God Real?

I'm pretty sure this is one of the longest arguments since ancient philosophy. People who are unaware of how philosophical arguments work, you need to have a logical basis for anything you say. You can't just say "Ah, the bible says-" because that isn't exactly believable for a person who doesn't believe in a God or the bible. For them bible could be a book written out of delulu of an ancient person. The same goes for counter argument "I can't see God, si not real!" You can't see many things in the universe but they exist. You literally see dead stars, your eyes aren't a great argument. Even witness eye testimonies are questionable. Your argument needs to be based in reasoning or science. [Also remember that most of these arguments are for and against a Monotheistic God. More over, they are specifically for a All merciful, All powerful, All seeing and All loving God] So, the argument will always be this first thing you learn in Philosophy because it's one of the biggest and ongoing debates. Now, I'll bring you some of the points and statements made over the years, remember this is purely for debate and not your personal belief. It's just an interesting topic, I don't give a hoot what anyone believes. The Analogous argument: This argument believes that the universe is analogous, as in everything comes from something or in "order and regularity", say the existence of an artifact such as a watch or a wooden chair justifies the presumption of the watchmaker or the wood worker. The Cosmological argument comes from Thomas Aquinas found on (my least favourite source) Britannica. The cosmological argument, which appeals to the notion of causation to conclude either that there is a first cause or that there is a necessary being from whom all contingent beings derive their existence. In Laymen's terms god must exist for the universe to exist as cause and effect is a law of nature. Continueing on; Something must come first as the first being and the primary mover to begin the universe and lead it to it's end as there needs to be a cause for the effect of universe. This cause, Aquinas said, is God. This theory actually then started another argument on the assumption that if God is real, is it One God, Multiple Gods OR if any of those beings or being are Omnipotent and Omniscient. (Just an FYI, One of my favourite quotes drives from here: If God is omniscient and good, he cannot be omnipotent. If God is omnipotent and good, he cannot be omniscient. If God is both Omniscient and Omnipotent, God is not good. It's to say, that if God knows all and can control all, then there should not be such atrocities in the world) St. Anselm's ontological argument "God, by definition, is that for which no greater can be conceived. God exists in the understanding. If God exists in the understanding, we could imagine Him to be greater by existing in reality. Therefore, God must exist." (This is the most Schrödinger's cat theory I've seen in my life ISTG) Anyway, back to topic. This is a complicated matter and there have been many many theories that oust the ones before. Let's look at some theories that are against the existence of God now: Evil: (I love how dramatic the name is) This argument is simple. Evil exists and is rampant, if evil exists, there cannot be a all powerful, all loving and all merciful God that many monotheist religions perpetuate. How can evil exist if God exists? If God is all powerful he does not need the Existence of Evil. Injustice: If there is an all powerful and all seeing God, why is he not Just? Why are the rich richer and the poor, poorer? Why is there no innate justice. Why are newborns dying, why is there war caused by the powerful that destroy the weak? We thought God has a design but the Earth is dying due to injustice. Municipality There are many religions of many kinds, all religions cannot be true at once, all powerful single God cannot be true from each religion. All religions must be false or there must me multiple Gods. The most popular argument against an Omniscient and Omnipotent God is: The "Argument from Free Will" or the "Paradox of Free Will": Free will cannot be possible if God is Omniscient and Omnipotent. There are philosophers that argued against the for "Evil" argument by saying that God allows evil because allowing free will is the "greater good", this makes God both omniscient and omnipotent but from Free Will argues that how is God "Good", omniscient, omnipotent and also able to allow evil when all religions also believe in fate and that everything that is happening is written in "fate" by God, (otherwise known as theological fatalism). This was just a short peek into this centuries long argument, but it's very interesting and ongoing.